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Dandelions on the verge

οἱ ἀπὸ Θάλεω καὶ Πυθαγόρου, λέγω δὲ τοὺς μἐχρι τῶν Στωικῶν καταβεβηκότας σὺν Ἡρακλεἰτῳ, τρεπτὴν καὶ ἀλλοιωτὴν καὶ μεταβλητὴν καὶ ῥευστὴν ὅλην δι᾽ ὅλης τὴν ὕλην.

The successors of Thales and Pythagoras, I mean those (sc. philosophers) descending as far as the Stoics together with Heraclitus, say that matter is wholly and completely changeable and alterable and mutable and fluid. 1

—Aetius (Placita, trans. Jaap Mansfield and David Runia, I.9.2)

  1. Following the old Teubner – οἱ ἀπὸ Θάλεω καὶ Πυθαγόρου καὶ οἱ Στωικοὶ τρεπτὴν καὶ ἀλλοιωτὴν καὶ μεταβλητὴν καὶ ῥευστὴν ὅλην δι᾽ ὅλης τὴν ὕλην – W.W. Goodwin has this as: ‘The disciples of Thales and Pythagoras, with the Stoics, are of opinion that matter is changeable, mutable, convertible, and sliding through all things.’ Take your pick. It’s all one. [↩]

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